tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1964420214422931785.post3606676834856710141..comments2024-03-25T22:19:34.039-07:00Comments on Earth's Internet & Natural Networking: How do ecosystems regenerate when Fire is absent ? Aw, the possibilities!Chaparral Earthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00618976919417073750noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1964420214422931785.post-8175010283393759602014-08-29T06:52:14.656-07:002014-08-29T06:52:14.656-07:00Every time I learn something new, I sit back and w...Every time I learn something new, I sit back and watch whatever party-line never seems to learn anything new - they just re-hash. Interesting how it comes down to balance, not *just* fire, but many other mechanisms, to keep plants growing in the wild. Animals moving seeds, check. Even people doing moving seed is no less natural, but that's where the old guard often draw the line.<br /><br />Great info on Tecate Cypress, which I will look for from the road next time in San Diego County. I vaguely remember that Guatay Mtn stand from the road, not thinking what those conifers were. The natural tree-staking of the adjacent chaparral makes sense, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1964420214422931785.post-85082220284557856082014-08-11T22:28:02.298-07:002014-08-11T22:28:02.298-07:00I like Jon Keeley, though I have never met him in ...I like Jon Keeley, though I have never met him in person. Most of what I know about him comes via Richard Halsey who I made the fictional character of the "Bishop of Aquilegia". I also wrote a post about Santa Rosa Mountain and two conflicting studies done about the plants moving up in elevation in the Santa Rosa Mountains. Jon Keeley & his colleague were correct on their take as to fire influencing changes on the mountain as opposed to the other study done by Anne Kelly & Mike Goulden. They believed air pollution caused changes in plant dislocation or relocation up the mountainside and Keeley & Dylan Schwilk attributed more to fire. I was interested because of having explored that area for over 20+ years, so I knew exactly what areas were being talked about. <br /><br />When I first moved there, All of the northern face of Thomas Mountain and Western & partial southern face of Santa Rosa Mountain were loaded with dead forest snags everywhere. Today those all all mostly gone and of course all memory of forest existing at lower elevations is gone as well. What this does is allow the usual story telling that there were no forests there for thousands of years. This is a lie, it was not all that long ago. There were two major historic fires, both started by the Cahuilla Indians on Santa Rosa Indian Reservation which destroyed lower elevation Santa Rosa Mountain and Thomas Mountain forests around 1909 I believe and further obliterated the entire recovery back in 1948. Below is what I wrote about that.<br /><br /><a href="http://creating-a-new-earth.blogspot.se/2013/01/santa-rosa-mountains-climate-change.html" rel="nofollow">Santa Rosa Mountains & Climate Change - Will Anyone Pay Attention ?</a><br /><br />-Chaparral Earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00618976919417073750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1964420214422931785.post-49213281943491833102014-08-11T13:51:58.442-07:002014-08-11T13:51:58.442-07:00I tried some detective work on your girdler and po...I tried some detective work on your girdler and posted my answer on my blog's comment area...<br /><br />Funny to hear reference to Jon Keeley, as my old classmate and grad school colleague Keith S. interacted with him at Occidental College and Keeley obviously made a big impression on him. Keith and I spent a LOT of hours driving around to and from field sites, and in the field, and I heard MANY stories about the personality and behavior of Keeley!Robyn Waayershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403062292397104209noreply@blogger.com